Glenn Beck: Extreme Right Winger?, Madman?, Idiot?
Folks I DON’T think so! Glenn Beck has had it right for almost two years. Glenn has been the lone voice of reason in a “sea of silence”. Glenn is hitting close to where the liberals live. They want and need the government to take care of “we the people”.
I have been watching the extreme lefties try to silence Glenn with renewed vigor ever since he moved to FOX. They may have been trying while he was at CNN but the voices did not seem as loud and extreme as they do now. If the common man listens to Glenn and watches the way this administration is moving their agenda, if the common man looks at the organizations trying to silence Glenn and listens to their nonsense, the common man will see that these attacks are occurring because Glenn has it right.
I believe that Glenn has them running scared and they once again are employing the radicals time tested methods to discredit Mr. Beck.
What really bothers me is that citizens of this country would utilize the methods of a dictatorship to infringe on any other U.S. citizens first amendment rights to free speech. When they resort to having their organizations “community organized?” boycott the major retail sponsors in an effort to stop anyone from speaking, this country has hit a new low and is one step closer to a socialistic state.
Go Glenn do what you do! Keep shouting, keep asking the questions and for gods sake do it at the top of your lungs…
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The Common Man: I am just that, someone who spent 30 plus years working for the government as a mid-level manager and program manager. This forum allows me to have a voice and share my concerns. I have been a voting member of the silent majority my entire adult life, now however it seems voting is not enough and being silent is a bad idea. This forum is an attempt to move the conversation from the kitchen table, friends and families to people who would also like to voice opinions and Participate in a civil debate.
Glenn Beck is an outrageous entertainer, just like Rush. He said it himself –”I’m a rodeo clown.” He has no intellectual coherence. Russell Kirk, Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley are spinning in their graves right now when someone like Glenn Beck is portrayed as a great conservative thinker.
bridig, you are missing the point, the point is that no one in the U.S. has the right to silence anyone just because they disagree. I am not touting Glenn Beck as the poster child for the conservatives only saying that he has the right to speak without losing his sponsors through an organized effort of those that oppose him. While I think he has been right on the issue of the financial collapse I am not holding him up as super hero.
Rod
The tactic of organizing campaigns against entertainers and boycotting sponsors is an old one, one that Christian organizations have embraced for years. And I’m afraid you’re wrong. Beck doesn’t have “the right” to speak without losing his sponsors. The 1st Amendment protects us from the government limiting our free speech, not from private citizens, or corporations, or any other group that is not a government entity.
As for Beck’s record on the financial collapse, do you mean he was right when he supported Bush’s original bailout and when he called for more money to be thrown at the banks? Or do you mean his current position?
Bridgid, because something has been done before doesn’t make it right. I am wondering if this is one we just have to agree to disagree. I feel in any discussion one should make their point and not try to silence the opposition by any other means than proving that point. It reminds me of the “bully” who quickly runs out of words and resorts to pushing, shoving and intimidation.
The point is simply that as usual in political world if you disagree with the opposition they try to silence you by any means. I feel if someone resorts to this tactic they will never have my support. I am trying to promote civil discourse in a system that no longer seems to be able to do that.
I agree totally with your sentiments Rod. I was not advocating that two wrongs make a right. I was pointing out the very human tendency to support outrageous behavior when it is done by “our side” and then to condemn that very same behavior when it is done by “the other side.” If it is the behavior that is offensive, then it shouldn’t matter who does it, it should be universally condemned.
The latest hypocritical legislation passed by Congress against ACORN is a perfect example of this.
Bridgid,
We are on the same page, outrageous behavior does not promote communication. No one will listen if your yelling at them or trying to degrade them personally.
As for Acorn!! I think they and all similar organizations both right and left should be audited and investigated. I don’t like the fact that our tax dollars can be used for political purposes, even “get out the vote” type activities. These organizations have to much political power, I would go a step further and say they should probably not be allowed to make campaign contributions.
Well said. Although the political power of ACORN is miniscule in comparison to trial lawyers or health insurance lobbyists, which is why the supposedly “moral” grandstanding in Congress to defund ACORN is such obvious political theater.
Now, if Glenn Beck mounted a campaign to expose the use of taxpayer money by defense contractors like Blackwater or ArmorGroup or DynCorp to fund actual prostitution rings, not just pretend prostitution rings, that would be something to behold!
Ok Bridgid now you done it!!! I guess we are in total agreement now. I have no re-course but to find a new blog topic and post it, so we begin a new discussion.
Thanks for the intelligent discourse, it is a blast, and you are making me think.
Likewise!
Forgot to provide the link to the excellent post about federal contractor corruption by Kelley Vlahos in The American Conservative magazine.
http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/09/17/the-business-of-war-and-profit-arent-we-proud/
“There is such a lack of outrage for the way that private military contractors have pillaged and profiteered from our nearly-decade occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan that it leaves one speechless. Almost. Thanks to whistle-blowers — at the threat of their own security, professionally or otherwise — we have been informed of some of the basest, grossest behavior coming out of the contracting world on the taxpayers’ dime today. Whether it be soldiers electrocuted by cheap, poorly installed showers by KBR and Triple Canopy, the vodka-drug- fueled pimping frat boys from the Armor Group or the gang rape of a female American contractor by her fellow KBR employees, there is seemingly no end to evidence that the proliferation of privatization has created a runaway Frankenstein of venality, arrogance, avarice and corruption and downright evil, with no restraint that I can see, whatsoever.”
Amusing to see liberals accused of boycotts…something we hardly ever seem to get organized enough to do, while Conservative Christians, who are now to be identified as the GOP, have boycotted things liberally (pardon the pun) for decades, silencing everything they dislike. George Carlin famously responded to Donald Wildmon by asking him to simply turn the knob if he didn’t like anything, but then allowed that Christians are probably not very good with knobs. Well, Beck is a knob, and it’s hypocritical at the least to say boycotts are evil if they’re organized by liberals and good if they’re organized by conservatives, but then this is what we’ve been seeing: Bush does it: GOOD. Obama does same thing: BAD. Just more hypocrisy.
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RodZ;
Sorry buddy, but you are wrong. The liberals are NOT trying to silence Beck. Many of us, including me, think him a fear mongering moron who tells more lies to his fans than Gov. Sanford does to his wife, but we do not believe in censorship. All we seek is accuracy. We, in America, have a long history of radical thought (equal civil rights, universal sufferage, equal justice) and I don’t begrudge Beck’s right to think as radically as he wants. Lies, on the other hand, must be acknowleged for democracy to succeed.
Duane, I did not get it wrong! You are among the more reasonable folks, there is a very focused group of liberals trying to get his sponsors to drop him. This is a fact and they are have some success. I know exactly how you feel about Glenn Beck, I in fact think he is over the top in how he presents his position and I don’t agree with him on many things, but like I take issue on trying to silence him.
RodZ;
There is a major difference between trying to censor someone who is advancing radical ideas and one who has spewed forth racist (read un-American) filth. Those liberals of whom you speak are enraged about his racist remarks, not his political ideology.