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		<title>Comment on Albert Einstein: God vs Science by Lady Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I have a question!  

In this little test, did at this point over 2500 people read this post, Is it because of the subject matter or because Albert Einsteins name was in the title and his picture was inserted?  and what search word was used most to find this post?

I know because I have the data!  

Thank you everyone who helped in this little experiment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I have a question!  </p>
<p>In this little test, did at this point over 2500 people read this post, Is it because of the subject matter or because Albert Einsteins name was in the title and his picture was inserted?  and what search word was used most to find this post?</p>
<p>I know because I have the data!  </p>
<p>Thank you everyone who helped in this little experiment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Albert Einstein: God vs Science by Bridgid</title>
		<link>http://yes-23.com/other/albert-einstein-god-vs-science/comment-page-1/#comment-2252</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridgid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to side with Jim on this one Kathleen.  I think the people who fabricate these stories are thieves.  They steal someone else&#039;s reputation and use it for their own purposes.  My question is, why does this occur so often among Christians?  I can point to dozens of similar emails that each hijack some famous person and then put words in that person&#039;s mouth.  More often than not, the words conveniently echo a Christian or conservative talking point.  To me, this tactic is a red flag.  It tells me that the philosophy or ideology presented in the false story cannot stand on its own two feet, so the author of the story has to embellish it.

There would be nothing wrong with this story if you left Einstein out of it.  The professor&#039;s argument would still be pretty lame, which is the point of the story: Godless liberal professors are so stupid they can be outsmarted by righteous Christian college students.  Why not leave it at that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to side with Jim on this one Kathleen.  I think the people who fabricate these stories are thieves.  They steal someone else&#8217;s reputation and use it for their own purposes.  My question is, why does this occur so often among Christians?  I can point to dozens of similar emails that each hijack some famous person and then put words in that person&#8217;s mouth.  More often than not, the words conveniently echo a Christian or conservative talking point.  To me, this tactic is a red flag.  It tells me that the philosophy or ideology presented in the false story cannot stand on its own two feet, so the author of the story has to embellish it.</p>
<p>There would be nothing wrong with this story if you left Einstein out of it.  The professor&#8217;s argument would still be pretty lame, which is the point of the story: Godless liberal professors are so stupid they can be outsmarted by righteous Christian college students.  Why not leave it at that?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Albert Einstein: God vs Science by Lady Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Einstien, because without Einstien part of the point of the story is lost!

It is aan anecdote for us all to talk about... which is what you did.. 

Have a wonderful day!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Einstien, because without Einstien part of the point of the story is lost!</p>
<p>It is aan anecdote for us all to talk about&#8230; which is what you did.. </p>
<p>Have a wonderful day!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Albert Einstein: God vs Science by Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I&#039;m to read this correctly Kathleen, you are saying it&#039;s ok to perpetuate a lie as long as you are making a point?  I mean, it&#039;s a nice anecdote, even if the so-called philosophy professor&#039;s arguments are simplistic and childish at best, why does it have to falsely feature Einstein?  Ah, yes, as it was said, to lend gravitas, to make someone believe it&#039;s true, instead of just enjoying an anecdote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I&#8217;m to read this correctly Kathleen, you are saying it&#8217;s ok to perpetuate a lie as long as you are making a point?  I mean, it&#8217;s a nice anecdote, even if the so-called philosophy professor&#8217;s arguments are simplistic and childish at best, why does it have to falsely feature Einstein?  Ah, yes, as it was said, to lend gravitas, to make someone believe it&#8217;s true, instead of just enjoying an anecdote.</p>
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		<title>Comment on House Healthcare Bill Breakdown: Letter From Dr. Stephen E. Fraser, MD by JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree fact is fact. However, the bill is written to be specifically vague. &quot;Offiicial&quot; documents are written this way as to not contradict itself.

The fact is I see a green apple, a granny smith- see how ambiguous your statement is!

At any rate, to expect the worst from congress and to lean toward the most socialistic interpretation is more realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree fact is fact. However, the bill is written to be specifically vague. &#8220;Offiicial&#8221; documents are written this way as to not contradict itself.</p>
<p>The fact is I see a green apple, a granny smith- see how ambiguous your statement is!</p>
<p>At any rate, to expect the worst from congress and to lean toward the most socialistic interpretation is more realistic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on House Healthcare Bill Breakdown: Letter From Dr. Stephen E. Fraser, MD by James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facts are NOT opinions.

If you say an apple is blue and I say it&#039;s red, both statements are not equally valid because they are both just &quot;opinions&quot;.  The apple is a specific color, and red is not blue.

Reading the text of the Bill is not forming an &quot;opinion&quot;.  The Bill is written in English, and uses very specific language.  This &quot;letter&quot; claims that the Bill provides health care to illegal (undocumented) aliens.  However, the Bill explicitly states that the funds provided by this Bill CANNOT be used for undocumented aliens.  The &quot;letter&quot; attempts to point to a very specific line allowing coverage for any one regardless of personal characteristics.  He isn&#039;t stating an opinion, he is making a claim of a fact.  However, he deliberately does not mention that what he cites says that does not apply when coverage is explicitly excluded in any other sections of the bill.  Undocumented aliens are explicitly excluded from coverage at least 3 times in the Bill.

He is not stating his &quot;opinion&quot;, he is making claims of fact that are demonstrably untrue.  Most of us refer to that as lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts are NOT opinions.</p>
<p>If you say an apple is blue and I say it&#8217;s red, both statements are not equally valid because they are both just &#8220;opinions&#8221;.  The apple is a specific color, and red is not blue.</p>
<p>Reading the text of the Bill is not forming an &#8220;opinion&#8221;.  The Bill is written in English, and uses very specific language.  This &#8220;letter&#8221; claims that the Bill provides health care to illegal (undocumented) aliens.  However, the Bill explicitly states that the funds provided by this Bill CANNOT be used for undocumented aliens.  The &#8220;letter&#8221; attempts to point to a very specific line allowing coverage for any one regardless of personal characteristics.  He isn&#8217;t stating an opinion, he is making a claim of a fact.  However, he deliberately does not mention that what he cites says that does not apply when coverage is explicitly excluded in any other sections of the bill.  Undocumented aliens are explicitly excluded from coverage at least 3 times in the Bill.</p>
<p>He is not stating his &#8220;opinion&#8221;, he is making claims of fact that are demonstrably untrue.  Most of us refer to that as lying.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Bill Still Looming by Bridgid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if that&#039;s what you believe that I believe about government and spending, then we need to talk more!  I am actually more interested in finding smaller, local, community-based solutions to many of the problems that occur in our communities.  I don&#039;t like Big Government (including the Big Pentagon portion of Big Government), but I see a need for competent government.  

I see Big Corporations in a bad light as well.  I don&#039;t think accumulating wealth is bad, but I do think accumulating wealth through community and environmental destruction is bad.  To be a patriot means, in the most basic sense, to love your land.  Many people think patriotism is about flag-waving and cheering for &quot;their side&quot; like we&#039;re in some kind of glorified Super Bowl.

I think that Bush II&#039;s administration governed very poorly.  But how can you govern well when one of your central beliefs is that government per se is &quot;the problem&quot; ?  I am angry at the destruction of American values--and I mean American constitutional values, not Christian values or &quot;family values&quot;--that ran rampant after 9/11.  We were no longer a country ruled by law.  Suddenly, in my country torture was practiced and approved of by many of my fellow citizens, individual civil liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights were violated, and Americans who protested were mocked by their fellow citizens and called &quot;extremists&quot; or &quot;terrorist lovers.&quot;

And I am angry that Obama, a constitutional lawyer no less, has continued down this same road.  I wrote letters of protest while Bush was in office, and I&#039;ve written those same letters of protest to Obama.  Because a crime doesn&#039;t cease to be a crime simply because &quot;your guy&quot; is now in office.

But you&#039;re right on one thing Rod.  I do think the stimulus money was necessary to pull the economy out of a nosedive.  I&#039;ve read quite a bit about it, listened to various arguments, and come to my own conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if that&#8217;s what you believe that I believe about government and spending, then we need to talk more!  I am actually more interested in finding smaller, local, community-based solutions to many of the problems that occur in our communities.  I don&#8217;t like Big Government (including the Big Pentagon portion of Big Government), but I see a need for competent government.  </p>
<p>I see Big Corporations in a bad light as well.  I don&#8217;t think accumulating wealth is bad, but I do think accumulating wealth through community and environmental destruction is bad.  To be a patriot means, in the most basic sense, to love your land.  Many people think patriotism is about flag-waving and cheering for &#8220;their side&#8221; like we&#8217;re in some kind of glorified Super Bowl.</p>
<p>I think that Bush II&#8217;s administration governed very poorly.  But how can you govern well when one of your central beliefs is that government per se is &#8220;the problem&#8221; ?  I am angry at the destruction of American values&#8211;and I mean American constitutional values, not Christian values or &#8220;family values&#8221;&#8211;that ran rampant after 9/11.  We were no longer a country ruled by law.  Suddenly, in my country torture was practiced and approved of by many of my fellow citizens, individual civil liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights were violated, and Americans who protested were mocked by their fellow citizens and called &#8220;extremists&#8221; or &#8220;terrorist lovers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I am angry that Obama, a constitutional lawyer no less, has continued down this same road.  I wrote letters of protest while Bush was in office, and I&#8217;ve written those same letters of protest to Obama.  Because a crime doesn&#8217;t cease to be a crime simply because &#8220;your guy&#8221; is now in office.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right on one thing Rod.  I do think the stimulus money was necessary to pull the economy out of a nosedive.  I&#8217;ve read quite a bit about it, listened to various arguments, and come to my own conclusions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Bill Still Looming by RodZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RodZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The position you take in general speak to your beliefs to me. You seem to promote a consistent desire for more government and more spending. I think you believe that all this spending is bringing us out of this economic problem. My belief is that it is simply going to extend the problem and make it far worse. 

I too, enjoy our debates, it is fun to have a discussion with someone who can agree to disagree without malice. 
Hope you have a nice weekend. 
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The position you take in general speak to your beliefs to me. You seem to promote a consistent desire for more government and more spending. I think you believe that all this spending is bringing us out of this economic problem. My belief is that it is simply going to extend the problem and make it far worse. </p>
<p>I too, enjoy our debates, it is fun to have a discussion with someone who can agree to disagree without malice.<br />
Hope you have a nice weekend.<br />
Rod</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Bill Still Looming by Bridgid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I do enjoy these debates with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I do enjoy these debates with you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Bill Still Looming by Bridgid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod

OK, now I think you&#039;re confused! :)  I just read through my comments and couldn&#039;t find a single instance of me &quot;defending liberal left policies.&quot;  In my first comment I pointed out the hypocrisy of Republicans howling about reconciliation now that Democrats might use it, and in my second post I challenged you on trying to have it both ways by being against deficit spending but for the Bush tax cuts, which increased the deficit.  What is &quot;liberal left&quot; about either of those comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod</p>
<p>OK, now I think you&#8217;re confused! <img src='http://yes-23.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I just read through my comments and couldn&#8217;t find a single instance of me &#8220;defending liberal left policies.&#8221;  In my first comment I pointed out the hypocrisy of Republicans howling about reconciliation now that Democrats might use it, and in my second post I challenged you on trying to have it both ways by being against deficit spending but for the Bush tax cuts, which increased the deficit.  What is &#8220;liberal left&#8221; about either of those comments?</p>
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